Wire, Threema, or Signal? What am I going to recommend to friends and family on WhatsApp? I leaning towards Wire right now even though I used Threema in the past.
@kensanata They all share the same nasty property: Centralized infrastructure.
What about this https://about.riot.im ?
@balu Mainly I’m not holy with the Riot UI at the moment.
If you want a simple messenger with good voice and video calls, Ring is pretty good: https://ring.cx/
It's open source, decentralised and has apps for android and iphone (though make sure you load the right app, there's a totally different app also called Ring that is for a home security system).
Ring also has clients for Mac, Win and Linux.
@switchingsocial I was very curious about Ring (and Retroshare too) a while ago. But had concerns about the need to allow upnp in the router.
I could be wrong but I don't think you have to do that any more?
@switchingsocial I just had a look at the FAQ and it still mentions upnp.
I also reinstalled clients on desktop and phones but couldn't establish a connection.
Maybe other things are wrong, I'm not a tech expert.
Tox was easier, but not the best video quality and a bit heavy on the phone.