Just curious, how do you like StartPage? That's what I usually use because it gives me better results than DDG but I'm wondering if you choose not to recommend it for a reason.
Wow that's a lot haha, thank you for the response. Looks like I will have to reconsider my choice of search after all.
Qwant is partly owned by Axel Springer SE..
Don't know much about them, is there reason to be concerned?
It's one of the biggest publishing companies in europe, especially germany, and therefore in a superior position regarding "public opinion". Most of its publications (in germany) are since decades very controversial, spreading rightwing to far-right positions e.g. hatred towards minorities. Majority owner of the company, the Springer-family, is one of the richest in germany. Whether that is a reason to be concerned is up to you. I won't trust them.
Geez... I'd rather not list any sites connected to large corporations due to their tendency to monetise as much as possible :/
It's a 20% stake so they're not exactly owned by them, but still... :/
Exactly.. Yes as I wrote only partly owned but thats enough to avoid them if you ask me.
I'll give this some thought, thanks for info.
Balancing one risk (alternatives to Google) with other (problems with those alternatives).
Axel Springer isn’t a publisher, it’s a behavioural advertising company. “The core business of [Axel Springer] is to deliver ads to its visitors. Journalistic content is just a vehicle to get readers to view the ads.” – Axel Springer’s lawyer; https://better.fyi/spotlight/
Do. Not. Trust.
This is getting difficult :/
-Google is worst option, trying to steer people away from that
-Other large companies (MS Bing etc) aren't any better than Google
-Qwant part-owned by corporation
-Startpage run by people with perhaps dubious intentions
-SearX is a bit overwhelming for non-technical users
...that leaves DuckDuckGo, but I don't want to steer everyone to one site, because sooner or later it may be compromised :/
@switchingsocial I used Startpage for quite a while, whats potentially dubious about them? I'm out of the loop on this.
Well... for example, one of its creators, Katherine Albrecht, thinks we're living in the end times and that RFID/NFC tags are "the mark of the beast".
Scroll to the video section near the bottom of the page:
She's written a kids book warning about it and discusses it in podcasts.
@switchingsocial Eew, glad I switched away from it then.
What about just using searx.me? It's from searx creator and there's no setup.
Of course the real problem with the metasearch engines is that they're still using the service you're trying to get away from. Kind of feels parasitic. Like we're befitting from the expense if others.
Need to mention Mojeek.co.uk to.
Features, relevance, speed... a lot of elements to cover as a search engine - but in the end It comes down to trust.. https://www.activateprivacy.com/features-of-private-search-engines/
@switchingsocial Which, again and again and again, leaves us with the question: How can we provide people like smartphone end-users (who aren't at all tech-savvy in many cases) with a search application that is ethically acceptable while, first and foremost, it just does what people expect it to do - find the things they're looking for (and not running a search server)? This, too, will need funding for operations and development in order to work out right.
I really liked #quant, especially back when it had the 3coloumed search-result (Web/news/social)
I went searching for a source on the Axel Springer investment, here it is:
(I didn't see anyone posting it yet, sorry in case I missed it)
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