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is a good privacy-conscious alternative to Microsoft Windows. It's free, fast and easy.

-Modern forms of Linux (such as Ubuntu or Linux Mint) are as easy to use as Windows or Mac. They're well supported, with popular apps like Spotify and Steam.

-If you're having trouble making an installation USB stick, you can order them online: osdisc.com/

-You can buy PCs with Linux preinstalled from a wide range of shops:
linuxpreloaded.com/

@switchingsocial canonical & firefox do not have a clean record on privacy.

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@lanodan

I think there's maybe some misunderstanding of what switching.social is about?

The point of switching.social is to give non-technical people alternatives that are as easy to install and use as whatever they replace.

Ubuntu is IMHO the easiest to install, so it's the most likely path into Linux for newbies.

Without easy-to-use alternatives, non-technical people will stay with whatever they are currently using (probably MS Windows, probably Google Chrome etc).

Indeed. My distro, Fedora is reasonably pro-freedom but not enough to make FSF's list, and even then the perception is it's not easy enough to use because binary drivers and proprietary codecs are not preinstalled

@switchingsocial @uuim @kii_chan @lanodan Mint is in my experience a bit more beginner-friendly, since it "looks" more like windows. Expected behaviour is very important too many people.

My father, who most certainly has computer experience (worked with them since the 80's) still gets confused by Unity's overview mode and unusual search mechanisms. Mint with Cinnamon/Mate (or Ubuntu Mate) are in these senses easier to get started with.

@switchingsocial @kii_chan @uuim
> Ubuntu being the easiest to install

Yes, that’s true, but saying that it’s privacy-conscious is basically a lie.
And doesn’t mean you have to go full opposite and pick something that even nerds may not use.
And yeah there is a bit of trading to be done between easy and privacy-conscious because it’s quite a lot of work to be, and so a different focus.

@lanodan @uuim @kii_chan

Nothing is 100% privacy-conscious if you're going to connect it to the internet and/or use it on proprietary hardware.

But almost all of us do connect to the internet, and almost all of us do use non-libre hardware.

At some point you have to do a trade-off between what you would like people to do and what it is possible for people to do.

There are already *plenty* of tech sites which go for maximum privacy, I even have a section about them:

switching.social/ethical-alter

@switchingsocial @kii_chan @uuim
> Nothing is 100% privacy-conscious

Yup, but doesn’t mean that by magic something that litterally isn’t, becomes privacy-conscious by just having a piece of software (Linux).
All I mean is that you shouldn’t tell that something is when it’s just not and maybe a bit of wording about this trade-off.
@lanodan @switchingsocial @kii_chan @uuim why not use Linux Mint or Linux Lite instead?

It's based on ubuntu, but have canonical's spyware removed

@switchingsocial @lanodan @uuim @kii_chan

Honestly it doesn’t matter which OS you recommend you’re going to get “this isn’t the one I use so you’re wrong to recommend it” tweets and toots.

@danarel @kii_chan @uuim @switchingsocial Specially with recommending products for features/ethics they do not have…
Could you add PrivacyTools.io to that list? It has a healthy following among privacy conscious people (even has its own subreddit)

@switchingsocial @lanodan @uuim @kii_chan You mention Purism for their laptops, why didn't you add PureOS to the list? Just curious.

@revkellyn

There's nothing wrong with PureOS. The reasons I gave Ubuntu prominence are because it's easy to install and set up, and it's got the widest amount of support resources if people run into a problem.

Choosing a form of Linux is such a big topic and I'm not an expert, thought it would be best to leave it to other sites.

@switchingsocial Sure, I agree. You're doing wonderful work and I think Switching Social has a great potential to bring people away from harmful tech companies. My point on GNU/Linux is just that we should be setting the record straight for the brand new people in order to reverse the common trend of disregarding the GNU team and all their hard work. It would only be a 4 character change, but I believe the impact would be significant when Switching Social gets popular :blobcat:

@switchingsocial I do support Free Software but sadly no.
All Linux distros aren’t Privacy Conscious, Ubuntu basically sended App Search results to amazon around the 14.04 version. (So their own cortana before it even existed basically)
Most come with Firefox, which IMO only officially does.

@switchingsocial in addition to @tjemni's comment, Richard Stallman would be saddened by the lack of representation of GNU. Here's his article explaining why GNU/Linux is the proper name for the OS as a whole:
gnu.org/gnu/why-gnu-linux.html

@kii_chan @switchingsocial @tjemni we need to start somewhere, IMHO getting people away from OSX and Windows is the first priority. Going full FSW comes with time.

@switchingsocial "privacy-conscious alternatives"... are you sure that you want to mention Steam and Spotify as good things? I don't think so.

@hexmasteen

I have an entire section on swtiching.social about alternatives to Steam, so obviously I'd prefer people didn't use it.

But a lot of people do use Steam, and if its presence on Linux helps get them off Windows then it's worth letting them know about it.

@switchingsocial One step is better than nothing - I understand. Thanks for this project by the way! ❤️

@switchingsocial Linux is not more secure than Windows. There're just less attacks. Also, many games don't work (well) on Linux. However free software is able to respond and close exploits.

@switchingsocial Linux is not alternative to winblows, it's alternative to UNIX. Pls.

@switchingsocial fsf.org/ryf has list of other ptoducts, particularly they come by default with most free/libre software installable by the time of release.

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