EU citizens!

has lurched back into life due to a last minute Franco-German deal:

juliareda.eu/2019/02/article-1

Any profit-making site over 3 years old will have to install YouTube-style automatic copyright filters on all uploads.

In practice, they would have to outsource it to Google etc. Big tech would choose what we see, even on tiny indie sites.

Please tell your MEPs today, in your own words, that this is not acceptable. They vote on this next Monday:

europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/hom

@switchingsocial

I normally like your posts but now you are spreading misinformation by omission.

"Annual turnover below €10 million" are excluded.
You call a site with 10 million euro turnover a tiny indie site?
"Fewer than 5 million unique monthly visitors" are excluded.

Small sites are not affected at all.

With 10 million/year there is no need to outsource to Google.

Otherwise I have no opinion pro or against article 13.

@alexbeck

No, you've misunderstood the proposal. Small sites are most definitely affected.

You have to be under three years AND under 10 million euros income AND fewer than 5 million unique visitors if you want to be exempted from the rules.

If ANY of those are untrue, then you have to have upload filters. So, if your site is over three years old, you have to have filters.

The link I gave gives examples of this.

@alexbeck

To put it another way, under Article 13 upload filters would be mandatory for all these sites:

-profit-making site over 3 years old

OR

-profit-making site over €10m turnover

OR

-profit-making site with over 5 million visitors/month

The last two options include only large sites, but the first option includes even the smallest sites if they have any kind of income.

@switchingsocial I went back to the site and, yes what you say appears correct. So please ignore my post and carry on.

I went in to the actual pdf in her article and it's not super clear that it's about technical filters.

By the first look it seems like they want to stop sites breaking copyright law. TOS forbidding posting of stolen content and then taking down such content when reported, that seems to be enough?
I'm no expert. First time I look at that article.

@alexbeck

The current situation is piracy is illegal, but the platform holder isn't liable as long as they take action to remove illegal uploads.

Article 13 would make platform holders liable for uploads even if they remove them immediately. The only way to avoid liability would be to prevent pirated material ever being uploaded, and the only way to do that would be filters.

(By the way, this doesn't just cover video or music, it would cover text too. Every post would have to be scanned.)

@switchingsocial @alexbeck piracy isn’t illegal, it just makes you liable to a lawsuit on the grounds of copyright infringement. The services providing them are also liable and have been historically found guilty of infringement just as the individuals who share or download theme

Does your account’s regular spread of misinformation come out of malice or incompetence?

@miya @alexbeck

"regular spread of misinformation"...? 😟

Would you care to give some examples?

@switchingsocial @alexbeck
Your whole project generally distorts the definition of “ethical” to be some vague, undefined combination of open-source (regardless of freedom) or privacy-marketed (regardless of actual privacy). Eg false private/ethical recommendations of Mozilla firefox, which is spyware just as Chrome is or ProtonMail, which tracks its users and stores data and IP.

It’s understandable you’re trying to keep the technical info low as the intended audience is non computer experts, but that’s stronger reason to maintain a more rigorous standard, since they’re putting their trust in you. There’s no reason you couldn’t recommend Midori or Otter, for example, which are easy to use feature complete browsers. Do you have any actual experts on your team?

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@switchingsocial Otter is literally just a FOSS recreation of Opera before it changed its design ethos. Where do you get the idea it’s for “techie” users?

Do you know how to monitor outgoing connections? I doubt you’ve actually turned off all its telemetry, which would require disabling some of its built in plug ins. Make sure to go back in and turn off Mozilla’s tracker specifically for people who turn off telemetry.

Again, how is Firefox at all a private alternative?

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@switchingsocial I know, that was a joke. they asked for a Stallman approved browser.

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@switchingsocial that’s fine that you’re unwilling to continue the conversation, but the fact is you’re spreading misinformation, recommending non-private alternatives as private, and defending yourself with an unstated definition of privacy that doesn’t seem to cover anything anyone else means when they say privacy. It’s not a question of disagreement.

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@switchingsocial not sure why you can’t just link directly to Windows/OSX downloads on your site but ok, website design & PR comes first before privacy. How about Midori or Iridium? They both have easy to use sites and are not spyware, unlike Firefox.

And once more, why Firefox over Chromium? How is Firefox private in any way?
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